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  • Why is there not a single country in the world on a gold standard TODAY?

    Posted by Hendrik on March 30, 2023 at 04:30

    I realize governments prefer to print their own money. It gives them more control.

    But if sound money is superior how is there not a single benevolent president or king or whoever who decided it would be best to 100% back their countries currency with gold after 1971?

    Is it the fact that every other country would have to play along or what am I missing there?

    There are 180 different currencies in the world you would think that at least one country would have attempted this.

    Paul replied 1 week, 3 days ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Pat

    Member
    March 30, 2023 at 18:46

    That’s a really good question. I suspect the power to print is too alluring for most countries. Another thing that could be happening is the promise of free money. There may be a minority of benevolent leaders that would be willing to do this, but when the run up against someone promising something for nothing, the other party gets elected. Thus, rendering the benevolent leader worthless.

    • Hendrik

      Member
      March 31, 2023 at 07:05

      Thanks. The fact that a party who would promote this can not promise voters the same short term benefits as a party who can keep printing money is something I have overlooked. I suppose that would also go back to the fact that parties in a democracy are usually only elected for 4 years.

      With that I now wonder if there are any parties in any country who have attempted this or who have come close..

  • ferenc

    Member
    April 1, 2023 at 00:46

    I suspect this is where a monarchy would be superior, countering the 4 year election cycle of so-called democracies.

  • Jay

    Member
    April 3, 2023 at 05:37

    One of the reason i would argue is the fact that Gold is not held by one single nation only. Despite the fact that the US has the most but all other countries who also have gold reserve far exceeds US gold reserve if we add them together so my point is that it will be hard to determine the hegemony in this case and come up with a solution. That’s one of many reasons i would say. Thanks

    • Hendrik

      Member
      April 4, 2023 at 08:14

      Wouldn’t it give the country who starts to do this first a jump start?

      Say Switzerland does this. They are the 7th biggest gold holder but only the 20th biggest economy worldwide. I don’t see how they wouldn’t benefit but someone smarter than me needs to chime in on this. I have tried to google a good answer but couldn’t find anything.

      Here is a list of who holds the most gold and the west dominates the statistics

      https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gold-reserves

      (Pretty surprised to see Germany and Italy at 2 and 3 respectively.)



  • Jay

    Member
    April 5, 2023 at 11:52

    I think whoever starts first does not matter because you can start first but only have a small percentage of gold reserve which does give you any kind control. That’s my opinion at least.

    Thanks

  • Jerome Clerambault

    Member
    October 26, 2023 at 13:43

    Lyn Alden discusses this in her book Broken Money (or in her interviews, for example Bankless this week)… My interpretation here.

    Imagine there is a war.

    The country that can print money out of thin air is able to finance the war effort by extracting all the wealth from its people.

    The country on hard money standard (e.g. gold) can only finance the war effort via taxation (= coercition) and war bonds (= voluntarily). If the war is not popular (too far away, unjust, painful, etc), the people won’t buy the bonds. If taxation is too much, people will revolt.

    So, weak money allows for total war. The country with weak money will win the war. So all countries will switch to weak money.

    But even without war. It’s like a darwinist selection of moneys. 20th century is the moment when gold became uncompetitive because of the progress of telecommunications. Moving gold became too slow and expensive, and so people switched to weaker moneys (fiat), because that allowed to transfer the money electronically. The downside: centralization of the ledger (via banks, then central banks).

    To get back to hard money, we need a money that imposes itself sneakily to the countries…

  • Jennifer

    Member
    January 17, 2024 at 02:05

    If your country is using gold instead of the reserve currency, your exports are not competitive. To buy your exports, people in other countries have to convert their currency to gold, which gets more expensive as their currencies lose value due to inflation.

  • Paul

    Member
    May 13, 2024 at 11:13

    politicians couldn’t make the promise of social programs if they had to pay for them with money backed by gold.

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